Salem Witch Trials Mafia GAME THREAD

and everyone is asleep. hey mafia. what ya plannin'?

Very interesting. I can think of 2 possibilities: 1. Hoodlum plus a.n.other are Mafia - it was a toss-up between Hood and Akua and we all went the wrong way 2. I've been led up the garden path like a prize porker by Ely since day 1. Option 2 - I built my view of things on the foundation that Ely's suggestion of laying cards-on-the-table seemed trustworthy. I'm just trying to think if I may have been stung here. But everything that has happened since has fitted in to the view that Ely is Town - Jacob and Clubs both vouched for him, and we know they are/were both Town. So unless we've all been conned, that leads me back to... Option 1 - simple soul that I am, I confess I struggle to understand a lot of what Hoodlum has said. And I'm naturally suspicious of stuff that seems obscure. So for the record (in case I turn up dead at the end of the night) tomorrow if I survive I will almost certainly be voting to lynch Hoodlum.

ely asked for an analysis - well here it is - [b]mday[/b] - dead -- not town - only 1 post really [quote]I could share my role, but I'm afraid it's too powerful a town role to disclose.[/quote] seemed to never get into the game much. hopefully was mafia and was active enough in that chat to enjoy the game and want to come back next time. we have no clue which faction he was nor his ability. lynched, resurrected, then lynched again (predicably) - [b]akman[/b] - dead - town - inactive at the beginning of the game due to claimed travel. since he is now confirmed town = the fact that he cleared ely and rock lean heavily in their favor for being town. i am not disregarding the fact/option that there is a manipulator out there that could have caused his investigation results to be skewed. - [b]jacob[/b] - dead - the News Reporter, part of Town - his ability was fairly weak and his spec ability was made useless by the full reveal. it did serve to prove himself to have the spec ability he claimed which gave him one of the highest probability of being town early on. despite that = killed by clubs - [b]clubs[/b] - died n2 and was declared town by cwolf - proceeded to violate the rules and post while dead claiming a full reveal. how did cwolf feel about that? did he then switch clubs to the dark side or was that part of the game already = 1st town to be brought back comes back as mafia/neutral. killed jacob = understandable since a 1 time town kill ability will be wasted if he died before getting to use it - took a shot, but why jacob of all people? - [b]TLM[/b] - claimed investigative role early on - did not use it n1. attempted to use it on akman n2 due to sus inactivity but was blocked and got no report. used code to give advance notice of who i was investigating n2 and 3 to prove my intentions w/o tipping off mafia. investigated akman again n3 and got the report from cwolf that he had attempted to use a kill ability. the investigation and/or report was tampered with to lead me to believe akman was mafia. there was no kill that night - [b]liz[/b] - claims town doc - said he would post who he would use spec abil on ahead of time but did not. still, likely doc and likely town. may have saved somebody from a kill night 3 since there was no kill. - - - note on the resurrection ability for town and mafia = very useful for town as it brings back a known town member to be in the game. for mafia, it would only stall for 1 day since that player would be again lynched immediately. - [b]ely[/b] - claims town priest - fairly weak ability that is impossible to verify (except that clubs is now back in the game and can verify that ability but not faction). spec abil - was he able to steal club's ability while dead and would he have had to returned it to clubs when resurrected? if not club's then the ability is wasted if mafia gets a kill tonight because that would bring the number of living player below 6. - [b]hood[/b] - claimed Inn Keeper, part of Town, but now Inn Keeper, part of Neutrals - neutrals never last long after being revealed since their wc may exclude town from winning. the use of his claimed abilities are sus at best. there have been games w good vs bad neutrals at play and we don't know mday's faction nor am i convinced of a few other's faction - [b]rock[/b] - claims Judge, part of Town - extra vote seems to be a town ability but it's not unheard of to be other. also, the number of uses may be limited - it looks like somebody's vote counted double on day 2 , rock did not vote on d3 (why not?) , and there was no double vote on d5 (Post #564) ely and hood are my top 2 suspects at this time w ely being mafia/bad neutral and hood ??? neutral TLM is looking pretty bad at this time also :) more to come as i think of it or notice something as i review the logs

Going back to the Ely initiated reveal: Ak hesitated and never gave actual reveal Hood hesitant naturally being neutral Rock hesitant Outsider & starts with a vote. Went his way with vote even though Ely and Clubs were going a different way. Clubs held back spec ability - already made 100% claim and gave up role info & witch intel. TLM hesitant and not in story line Jacob - Outsider Ely was revealed as priest by a Cry and chose to talk to me not Mayday not town (if mafia he would know his I dentity and have abilty steel. With me he had to guess. Clubs verified by death Lizard revived Town Club Ak verified by death that also verified his outing hood. Summary List of Prime Suspects: 1[u]. Tennesseelogman ??[/u]? 2. Mayday123- [b]NOT town[/b] likely neutral -not updated as dead again [u]3. Elysium5. ? likely town or chance true good neutral[/u] 4. 2ofclubs dead Night 2 cause by witch, TOWN 5. Jacob24 dead shot TOWN [u]6. @Rockbert. ? Outsider + 1 vote[/u] 7. Akuaman23 lynched TOWN 8. LizardMagpie TOWN 9. Hoodlum [b]NEUTRAL[/b] Mayday not town Hood neutral TLM ? Rock ? Ely outsider priest?

[quote=2ofclubs][quote=Jacob24]Arresting the only open investigation role is a bold play Clubs... Sure you're making the right call?[/quote] You could say I had a vision in last night's drunken black out. Or did i stumble into witches black mass and drank the green brew. No town deaths is the plan. Then we leave it the town lynch mob. Or is there something going on behind the scene in a secrete PM. Oh wait you're going to right your own story any way. D1 news. 4 suspects were arrested in raid: jacob, TLM, Hood, & Clubs. Who swings? [/quote] Jacob and Clubs didn't swing bad. ⁹Hood did. That leaves TLM. [b]And TLM is still throwing mud on verified sheriff[/b]. Jacob and TLM roles are outside of story (there were 3 claims of inspection). I chose the wrong w/ jacob. As for posting dead. It was obviuosly posting overlap lagg and not real damaging except for giving up my spec ability not the kill. I guess the Devil himself could have condemned me to the dark side. But it's a stretch / scramble for you TLM. LoL

If Ely [s]Hood[/s]winked conned me great job.

Also TLM excluded that I wasn't for voting Ak.

[quote=LizardMagpie]Very interesting. I can think of 2 possibilities: 1. Hoodlum plus a.n.other are Mafia - it was a toss-up between Hood and Akua and we all went the wrong way 2. I've been led up the garden path like a prize porker by Ely since day 1. Option 2 - I built my view of things on the foundation that Ely's suggestion of laying cards-on-the-table seemed trustworthy. I'm just trying to think if I may have been stung here. But everything that has happened since has fitted in to the view that Ely is Town - [b]Jacob and Clubs both vouched for him[/b], and we know they are/were both Town. So unless we've all been conned, that leads me back to... Option 1 - simple soul that I am, I confess I struggle to understand a lot of what Hoodlum has said. And I'm naturally suspicious of stuff that seems obscure. So for the record (in case I turn up dead at the end of the night) tomorrow if I survive I will almost certainly be voting to lynch Hoodlum.[/quote] Akua also cleared both me and You

[quote=2ofclubs]Also TLM excluded that I wasn't for voting Ak. [/quote] And neither was I. Everyone was sticking on Akua. Had to make sure there was not a tie vote. Known non townie(Hood) was the best choice, as stated a few times. All not lost, though, as Akua can now be verified town and now we can all believe what he said. We lost a town but gained some valuable info. [quote]From Tenn's post: - TLM - claimed investigative role early on - did not use it n1. attempted to use it on akman n2 due to sus inactivity but was blocked and got no report. used code to give advance notice of who i was investigating n2 and 3 to prove my intentions w/o tipping off mafia. investigated akman again n3 and got the report from cwolf that he had attempted to use a kill ability. the investigation and/or report was tampered with to lead me to believe akman was mafia. there was no kill that night[/quote] Why not use it night one? Blocked on night 2? Tampered with on night 3?

The deal with tie vote is it automatically goes to who Rock voted for if it was one of the tied.

Clubs MAY have come back changed but I will believe in the power of our prayer because bringing him back evil is just too much baddie in this game. Mayday went down as not part of town and didn't claim he was changed when he came back. He went back to the gallows willingly and with no struggle. If his win clause had changed, he would have maybe at least tried to say something in his defense, no? 3 Mafia vs 6 town is bad enough. 2 mafia and 2 Neutral with no PM's allowed between players other than Mafia and my ability to communicate at night vs 5 town seems much to lopsided, especially considering it looks like MayDay was either brought back by his own team or had a one time resurrect self ability? Again, that seems too lopsided. 2 Mafia and 1 neutral vs 6 town seems more likely.

[b][s]Mayday[/s] ??? NOT town[/b] [b]Hood traditional neutral[/b] [s]AK[/s] [u]town[/u] had investigation [s]Jacob[/s] [u]town[/u] had investigation - Really a 3rd in TLM [b]TLM is not the investigator also not in story line[/b] = mafia or neutral Lizard [u]town[/u] traditional Doc Clubs [u]town[/u] traditional Sheriff Ely [u]town[/u] in story line cleared by AK Rock is a traditional role but outsider [i]not verified[/i] 6 players left including a neutral (no verified dead mafia) Is it 5T+2M+2N or 6+2+1N the later makes Maday mafia.

I pray the night results will clear things up. :)

[quote]Why not use it night one?[/quote] there were no kills allowed n1

[quote=Tennesseelogman][quote]Why not use it night one?[/quote] there were no kills allowed n1[/quote] Ahh couldn't use your KILL ability.